Donald Trump privately called and berated Turning Point USA founder Charlie Kirk in July of 2025 after a TPUSA event transformed into what Trump described as an Epstein grievance fest.
Details of this explosive, profanity-laced confrontation were exposed in the book Regime Change. The heated conversation arose just two months before Kirk was assassinated on September 10, 2025, while speaking at Utah Valley University.
Kirk used his TPUSA platform and podcast to aggressively pressure the Trump administration to release all remaining sealed government documents regarding child sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein.
During the event of TPUSA in July, a succession of speakers heavily slammed Trump's AG for her past handling of the Epstein file investigation.
In reply to the internal rebellion from Kirk and figures like Tucker Carlson, Trump posted through Truth Social and slammed the pressure campaign as a scam and a Jeffrey Epstein hoax.